Lauren Goode: Oh, that’s really interesting.
Brian Barrett: Does the headline give away the spoiler? Because the headline … The name of the story was, „I Eat Meat.”
Michael Calore: „I Eat Meat. Why Was Killing My Own Food So Hard?” It’s a moral dilemma too, if you’ve never done it before, to pick up a gun and kill an animal. And my favorite part about it was one of the instructors says to her, „Whether or not you hunt again, now you’ve done it, so you understand it.” Really great story.
Lauren Goode: Wow.
Michael Calore: And in Bon Appétit, which is interesting because there are a lot of good reasons to hunt. It is an effective tool for population control. It’s also better for the planet if you hunt meat than buy something from a factory farm. And it’s also important for people to understand where their food comes from. Hunting is a big part of understanding that. The fact that it appears in Bon Appétit, which I should mention is a Condé Nast publication.
Lauren Goode: It’s our sister mag.
Michael Calore: Yeah. Our sister magazine, has nothing to do with why I’m recommending it. And it’s just who bought the story from her and paid for her to go on this trip. It’s really quite wonderful.
Lauren Goode: Didn’t Mark Zuckerberg go through this?
Michael Calore: He did. Yeah. There’s a lot of Silicon Valley influencers and just influencers in general over the past few years, who said, „I’m going to start killing my own meat.” And I do think it’s important that if people are going to eat meat, that they have a complete, full understanding where it comes from, so sure.
Lauren Goode: We can’t get through a single podcast in this room without talking about Meta, Facebook, or Mark Zuckerberg in some way.
Michael Calore: Or veganism apparently.
Lauren Goode: Right. Thank you Mike.
Michael Calore: How pompous do you want me to get here? Do you want me to go six, eight? Or do you want me to go seven, nine?
Lauren Goode: Good thing you didn’t go to Harvard because we’d probably hear about that every podcast episode too.
Michael Calore: You’re absolutely right. Instead, you get to hear about the University of Vermont, and the vegan from New England. All right. Well that is our show. Brian, thank you for joining us.
Brian Barrett: Thank you so much for having me.
Lauren Goode: It’s a sad moment.
Michael Calore: And thank you all for listening. If you have feedback, you can find all of us on Twitter. Just check the show notes. Our producer is Boone Ashworth. We will be back, sans Brian Barrett, next week. Until then, goodbye.
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Michael Calore: Did you get that? Do you need her to say it again?
Lauren Goode: No.
Michael Calore: Do you need her to say again?
Brian Barrett: Can you just leave that in and take out the rest of the surrounding context?